Thune’s gun bill causing a stir

Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., has set the political world afire with his proposal to allow gun owners to carry concealed weapons across state lines.

Reports say the proposal will be voted on today. Do you think Thune’s idea is good or bad?

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5 thoughts on “Thune’s gun bill causing a stir

  1. UPDATE:

    Concealed arms reciprocity rejected by Senate

    WASHINGTON (AP) — In a rare win for gun control advocates, the Senate on Wednesday rejected a measure allowing a person with a concealed weapon permit in one state to also hide his firearm when visiting another state.
    The vote was 58-39 in favor of the provision establishing concealed carry permit reciprocity in the 48 states that have concealed weapons laws. That fell two votes short of the 60 needed to approve the measure, offered as an amendment to a defense spending bill.
    Opponents prevailed in their argument that the measure violated states rights by forcing states with stringent requirements for permits to recognize concealed weapons carriers from states that give out permits to almost any gun owner.
    “This is no minor shift in policy,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., whose state requires people to be fingerprinted, get gun training and to undergo a federal background check before issuing permits. “It in fact would be a sweeping change and I think with some deadly consequences.”
    The vote reversed recent trends where Republicans and gun rights Democrats from rural states joined to push pro-gun rights issues and block gun control legislation.
    Congress this year voted to restore the rights of people to carry loaded weapons into national parks and the Senate moved to effectively eviscerate the tough gun control laws of the District of Columbia.
    Congress has also ignored urgings from President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder to revive a ban on military-style weapons that expired in 2004.
    The concealed weapons measure, promoted by the National Rifle Association and Gun Owners of America, would have made a concealed weapon permit from one state valid in the 47 other states with permit laws. Only Wisconsin and Illinois have no carry permit laws.
    Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., the sponsor, said it would not provide for a national carry permit, and that a visitor to another state would have to obey the limitations of that state, such as bans on concealed weapons in restaurants or other places.
    “Law-abiding individuals have the right to self-defense,” even when they cross state lines, Thune said, citing the example of truck drivers who need to protect themselves as they travel.
    Opponents, however, said the 48 states with permits have a broad range of conditions for obtaining those permits: some such as Alaska and Vermont, give permits to almost all gun owners. Others, such as New York, have firearm training requirements and exclude people with drinking problems or criminal records. …

  2. Thune’s response, via news release:

    Anti-Gun Senators Defeat Common Sense Thune Concealed Carry Amendment

    WASHINGTON, DC – Senator John Thune today issued the following statement after his bipartisan amendment that would allow individuals to lawfully carry concealed firearms across state lines so long as the laws of the host state are obeyed was defeated by a vote of 58 to 39:

    “Today, overheated rhetoric and fearmongering overcame common sense. My amendment would allow responsible firearms owners to protect themselves while obeying the firearms laws of the states they visit. The individual right to self-defense should not end at the state line. Despite today’s defeat, this amendment had bipartisan support and I hope the Senate will reconsider this important issue in the future.”

    Senator Thune’s amendment would not change or nullify any existing state concealed weapons laws. Individuals traveling outside of the state where there permit is issued must comply with all laws of the host state, or face prosecution. Despite the support of a majority of the Senate, including 20 Democrats, the amendment required 60 votes for passage.

    The Thune Amendment is cosponsored by Senators John Barrasso (R-WY), Max Baucus (D-MT), Mark Begich (D-AK), Robert Bennett (R-UT), Sam Brownback (R-KS), Jim Bunning (R-KY), Richard Burr (R-NC), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), Tom Coburn (R-OK), Thad Cochran (R-MS), John Cornyn (R-TX), Mike Crapo (R-ID), Jim DeMint (R-SC), John Ensign (R-NV), Mike Enzi (R-WY), Lindsay Graham (R-SC), Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Judd Gregg (R-NH), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), James Inhofe (R-OK), Johnny Isakson (R-GA),Mike Johanns (R-NE), John McCain (R-AZ), Jim Risch (R-ID), Pat Roberts (R-KS), Jon Tester (D-MT), David Vitter (R-LA), and Roger Wicker (R-MS).

  3. Every second spent on bills like this is one less minute Democrats aren’t voting to raise our taxes via cap and trade or socialized health care or taking away the secret ballot for the unions.

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